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  1. #1
    Doc
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    Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representative still?

    I'm having an issue with some videos in that the still that comes up
    in the YouTube gallery is some kind of green noise, while others come
    up with just a black frame.

    Any way to control or predict which frame gets used?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Chip Gallo
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    Re: Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representativestill?

    Doc wrote:
    > I'm having an issue with some videos in that the still that comes up
    > in the YouTube gallery is some kind of green noise, while others come
    > up with just a black frame.
    >
    > Any way to control or predict which frame gets used?
    >
    > Thanks


    You can go into the details about the video and choose from several
    still pictures. Vimeo (another video hosting service) gives you more
    choices including the ability to upload your own art. You can also
    change the video later, if for example you re-edit the piece, and keep
    the statistics. Youtube doesn't support this.

    Chip
    http://www.vimeo.com/chipgallo

  3. #3
    Gene E. Bloch
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    Re: Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representative still?

    On 5/06/2008, Doc posted this:
    > I'm having an issue with some videos in that the still that comes up
    > in the YouTube gallery is some kind of green noise, while others come
    > up with just a black frame.
    >
    > Any way to control or predict which frame gets used?
    >
    > Thanks


    If I had to guess (that's a sort of joke - I know nothing about this,
    so *of course* I have to guess!) I'd say that YT chooses the first
    frame in the video. So you should make sure your video starts with a
    decent frame (by careful editing with a tool that facilitates doing
    that).

    Anyone around willing to corroborate or contradict this guess?

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251
    (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")



  4. #4
    Doc
    Gast

    Re: Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representativestill?

    On May 6, 1:11*pm, Chip Gallo <cga...@NOSPAMcitlink.net> wrote:
    > Doc wrote:
    > > I'm having an issue with some videos in that the still that comes up
    > > in the YouTube gallery is some kind of green noise, while others come
    > > up with just a black frame.

    >
    > > Any way to control or predict which frame gets used?

    >
    > > Thanks

    >
    > You can go into the details about the video and choose from several
    > still pictures.



    Yeah, I got that but all three in the various vids are either the
    green noise or black.


    > Vimeo (another video hosting service) gives you more
    > choices including the ability to upload your own art.



    I just took a look, looks pretty cool. I see it also supports stereo.
    I'll have to investigate further.

    Thanks!

  5. #5
    davesvideo@aol.com
    Gast

    Re: Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representativestill?

    On May 6, 1:18*pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:

    > > Any way to control or predict which frame gets used?


    > If I had to guess (that's a sort of joke - I know nothing about this,
    > so *of course* I have to guess!) I'd say that YT chooses the first
    > frame in the video.
    > Anyone around willing to corroborate or contradict this guess?


    Sure. I'll contradict that. I just went and looked at the choices of
    one of my YouTube videos. The clip is 8:43 long. The first choice is
    about 1:30 from the first frame of the clip, and the 3rd choice is
    about 1:30 from the last frame. The 2nd choice appears to be right in
    the middle. So, I suppose that there is some sort of formulae, but it
    does not use the first frame.

    Dave

  6. #6
    Gene E. Bloch
    Gast

    Re: Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representative still?

    On 5/07/2008, davesvideo@aol.com posted this:
    > On May 6, 1:18*pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >>> Any way to control or predict which frame gets used?

    >
    >> If I had to guess (that's a sort of joke - I know nothing about this,
    >> so *of course* I have to guess!) I'd say that YT chooses the first
    >> frame in the video.
    >> Anyone around willing to corroborate or contradict this guess?

    >
    > Sure. I'll contradict that. I just went and looked at the choices of
    > one of my YouTube videos. The clip is 8:43 long. The first choice is
    > about 1:30 from the first frame of the clip, and the 3rd choice is
    > about 1:30 from the last frame. The 2nd choice appears to be right in
    > the middle. So, I suppose that there is some sort of formulae, but it
    > does not use the first frame.
    >
    > Dave


    Thanks, that's definitely informative for me.

    It also seems to me to imply that the OP is just out of luck.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251
    (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")



  7. #7
    Doc
    Gast

    Re: Any way to control which frame YouTube uses for representativestill?

    On May 7, 10:08*am, "davesvi...@aol.com" <davesvi...@aol.com> wrote:

    > Sure. I'll contradict that. I just went and looked at the choices of
    > one of my YouTube videos. The clip is 8:43 long. The first choice is
    > about 1:30 from the first frame of the clip, and the 3rd choice is
    > about 1:30 from the last frame. The 2nd choice appears to be right in
    > the middle. So, I suppose that there is some sort of formulae, but it
    > does not use the first frame.



    Since posting this I've found out that it uses frames from 25 - 50 -
    75%. So, the way to manipulate it if you're using the short high res
    video with a long black tail trick is to wrangle things so that the
    frame you want is at one of those points.

    I made a file with the frame I wanted a couple of seconds on either
    side of the mark just to be sure since I've noticed converting to .flv
    stretches the duration a tad.

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